hiphop

adtomnicq · Post by **adtomnicq** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:30 pm

currently im listening to

cannibal ox
mr lif
dr octagon
dalek
sole
el-p
antipop-consortium
and more..

and im looking for more good hiphop. and i find it hard to find good underground experimental (noise) wierd sounds etc.. hiphop.

so, what do you listen to? could you reccomend me some?

thanks

sievetronix · Post by **sievetronix** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:36 pm

along these lines of "experimental" or "underground" hip hop...
off the top of my head

company flow
hopefully that was implied with mentioning el-p

rubberroom
(released a great album and 2 great 12" of it had a song on techno animals brotherhood of the bomb and a track on an anti prison 12" and havent heard em sisnce but the reconstruction 12" was something i literally wore out the record)

and of coarse mf doom
(he released operation dooms day a while ago it is good but the songs were mostly re-recordings of the 12" he did for the now defunct fondle em records and the lost alot of the rawness and energy of those recordings, tho defjux released a fondel em compelation that is really solid, try and get mfs 12" especially the double 12" he did with mf grimm its hot)

and admit it you love them neptunes beats like everyone else

Resurrector · Post by **Resurrector** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 12:13 am

Project Blowed
Them
The Pedestrian
Rifleman
Busdriver
Sole
Dose One
Phoniex Orion
Aceyalone
Sixtoo
Atoms Family
Hangar
Green House Effect
Alias
Atmosphere

2nd Skin · Post by **2nd Skin** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:08 am

check this out :

abstract rude & tribe unique - p.a.i.n.t
alias - the other side of the looking glass
anticon
cunninlynguists

you can get them on soulseek, it's just brilliant

+Cm · Post by **+Cm** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:54 pm

lazerus jackson (hott, czech the lex release)
missy elliot (it's true, i am not sorry)
sixtoo (obviously)
dj food (always)
boom bip (duh)
kool keith (always)
which leads to...
any dan the automator project
and...
NEVER,
ever,
ever,
princess superstar (she sucks it "like woah")

stAllio! · Post by **stAllio!** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 7:04 pm

+Cm wrote: NEVER,
ever,
ever,
princess superstar (she sucks it "like woah")

there's something very appealing about female MCs who bust raunchy rhymes about their sexuality. unfortunately i haven't heard much in this area that i thought was that was good in a musical sense... instead you get stuff like khia's "my neck my back" which has deliciously dirty lyrics on top of a beat that's as wack as they come.

i liked princess's duet w/mc paul barman but what little i've heard of her solo work didn't really grab me.

other interesting hip-hop of note (all male, sorry)

mc paul barman
sensational
prefuse 73
hawd gankstuh rappuhs mc's wid ghats

sievetronix · Post by **sievetronix** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 7:52 pm

well if you want the female mcs jus go for early lil kim
i've known hard men to blush when hearing her go at it..

and while yr mentioning the wordsound crew
specter is pretty awesome

+Cm · Post by **+Cm** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:14 pm

khia's "my neck my back"

i don't care how wack the beat is...

that song is a gem. with the whole miami bass thing? dude, miss thang rocks it like it's 1992.

i say rock on with your fluorescent fanny pack, khia, you go GORL.

you work it for that madd bling bling.

female mc- always bahamadia. the new song "transcent" with prod. by king britt is nice and chill. positive. the flip of that is an excellent track guesting QUASIMOTO. i love quasimoto.

stAllio! · Post by **stAllio!** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:17 pm

sievetronix wrote:well if you want the female mcs jus go for early lil kim
i've known hard men to blush when hearing her go at it..

yeah i have notorious KIM & it's hit or miss... whose idea was it to have sisqo guest-star on "how many licks"? jesus... & i heard her new single once on the radio; sounded pretty catchy but haven't heard much hype about her new record other than that.

and while yr mentioning the wordsound crew
specter is pretty awesome

hell yeah, i picked up "parts unknown" featuring sensational & it's pretty good. i need to do a mail-order from wordsound to pick up some other goodies soon.

stAllio! · Post by **stAllio!** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:38 pm

+Cm wrote:
khia's "my neck my back"
i don't care how wack the beat is...

that song is a gem. with the whole miami bass thing? dude, miss thang rocks it like it's 1992.

i say rock on with your fluorescent fanny pack, khia, you go GORL.

you work it for that madd bling bling.

don't get me wrong: LOVE the lyrics, but would love it more with a good beat behind it.

i do kinda like the khia vs jagged edge version here: http://www.makesomenoise.co.uk/boots/bootlegs.asp but there was a khia vs nelly boot that i liked better; for some reason he didn't put that one up...

i guess i usually pay more attention to the sound of a track than the mc. it takes a really unique mc (kool keith, paul barman, odb) to grab my attention if i can't get into what the producer is doing.

adtomnicq · Post by **adtomnicq** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:25 am

thanks!

i found a nice label called mush records (the pedestriam, busdriver, boom bip and aesoprock (now defjux)) with mp3's to download. because i have a really really really (read: REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY) horrible handicap... soulseek doesnt work on my computer, AAAAAAARGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
so i need sites with mp3s. i still remember audiogalaxy... god, those were the times, they had everyting..

so, what are good hiphop labels?
like defjux, mush records, anticon

TZII · Post by **TZII** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:57 pm

wordsound

maladroit · Post by **maladroit** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:29 pm

ok

mc slug/atmosphere is great, the lucy ford record is great stuff... cant recommend it enough, n im not really into that sorta rap, i like my geto boys .... the first selftitled album is good.......

mc paris is a great political rapper n what what(on some herbaliser stuff) aka jean grae who does taco day on the recent mr len album is a great female mc
dont mind princess superstar, khia is good too.... only heard that one trackof hers though

michael franti is ok, poetic/the grymreaper from gravediggaz(rip) was cool too

n tone loc

what a genius!

+Cm · Post by **+Cm** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:48 pm

don't get me wrong: LOVE the lyrics, but would love it more with a good beat behind it.

it wouldn't be the same song. if all hip hop was timbaland it wouldn't be interesting. dude i don't even think you can call her hip hop. more like 2 live crew revivalist dirty south crack-hop...bling. core. sound. at this point you can't ask for a good beat, you've already subjected yourself to the hip hop that clings to the side...scum-hop. give into it. somewhere inbetween those cookie cutter high hats is salvation from terminal musical over-intellectualism (not directed at anyone inparticular).

i think i also have to mention

jay z. i've managed to get hooked on MOST everything he's put out. not the collabos he's done with tree-ocks like mariah and beyonce, but "i just want to love u"...indispensible! i like memphis bleek too.

and vadim. i buy everything he puts out. hell, add in all of ninja tune for that matter.

but the number one hip hop track i'm crushing on now is by lazerus jackson called "hip hop police":

you got your backpack and your email and your hip hop, ya'll too underground, and ya'll too fuckin' real, I only feel that spinning wheel, ya'll cops ain't stopping the deal"

um. yes.

stAllio! · Post by **stAllio!** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:35 pm

+Cm wrote:
don't get me wrong: LOVE the lyrics, but would love it more with a good beat behind it.
it wouldn't be the same song.

exactly, it would be a better song.

+Cm wrote: if all hip hop was timbaland it wouldn't be interesting. dude i don't even think you can call her hip hop. more like 2 live crew revivalist dirty south crack-hop...bling. core. sound. at this point you can't ask for a good beat, you've already subjected yourself to the hip hop that clings to the side...scum-hop. give into it. somewhere inbetween those cookie cutter high hats is salvation from terminal musical over-intellectualism (not directed at anyone inparticular).

who's asking for timbaland? i asked for a "good beat", not necessarily the bling-bling neptunes sound (though i do like the neptunes). you can be cheap & lo-fi & still be good. just out of the MCs i already mentioned, sensational is so lo-fi he recorded the vocals for his first few albums using headphones instead of a mic, for fuck's sake. or if you haven't heard the hawd gankstuh rappuhs, i highly recommend you check them out for some super trashy, scummy, lo-fi, low-brow, fun shit. "good" is not the same thing as "high production quality".

also just last night someone turned me on to the suicidal rap orgy... only heard one cut so far but it's pretty offensive, loud, very lo-fi, almost punk-sounding: http://sro.shitwank.com/

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