ableton 7

camouflage · Post by **camouflage** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:18 pm

just bought the educational discounted ableton 7 suite,
DAMN this is totally insane!!!
and also i just found out stuff i never noticed that was present in past versions, like randomizin\automizin clip consequentiality via FOLLOW ACTION....

i cant believe it.
it kinda scares me!!!

if anyone wanna share tips, this can be the right thread.
tomorrow i'll post my randomized yet useful and coherent beat slicer via FOLLOW ACTION....insane liveset weapon.

sintec · Post by **sintec** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:48 pm

still haven't managed to save enough pennies to get my upgrade from 6

but then I haven't got fully to grips with all the features in 6 yet so...

camouflage · Post by **camouflage** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:42 pm

well, the only improvement feature-wise is the drum rack.
apart from this they worked on refining the audio and midi engine.
here the randombreaks tip:

drag a break on an empty audio slot,copy-paste it in the same column (adiacent clips) as many times as many slices you wanna cut it into.

then, for each slice, select with the looping markers the single beat you want to isolate, as in recycle.
now, in the clip view, open up the clip launch properties, you'll see an area with the FOLLOW ACTION title.
there you'd need to specify after which amount of time (in beats and sub-beats) the action will start.
under that you have two menus and can choose two different actions for the clip.
usually i set the first slot to PLAY NEXT CLIP and the second to one of the following: PLAY ANY,PLAY OTHER, PLAY FIRST or PLAY LAST.
then you need to set the chance value for each of the two actions.

if you set it cleverly you can design a full break randomizer, maybe also makin other copies of the same clips, in the same column, but changin transpose value, pan, level or FX send....

it plays totally smoothly and its easy to control and maybe set it random, but not too random.

a brilliant part of this software, for real.

esoundc · Post by **esoundc** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:59 pm

just got it instaled today, it is cracked one, but think to try and do some music with this program, i'm mostly in hardware but when there is none, might try PC!

camouflage · Post by **camouflage** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:50 pm

hehehe sure ! both worlds together is the best imho!

moms in the basement · Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:19 pm

is ableton 7 worth buying for beginners or reason??

btw whats this option in discount youve got? cant find it anywhere.

sintec · Post by **sintec** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:03 pm

If you're a full time student or teach in an educational establishment then Ableton offer a discount on their software see http://www.ableton.com/shop-edu for more info.

Personally I would recommend Ableton over Reason. It offers far more scope for creativity in the long term. Most of the people I know who use Reason rewire it into Ableton anyway.

camouflage · Post by **camouflage** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:10 pm

exactly.
i never particularly loved reason, also.
ableton is intuitive and user-friendly for beginners as well as reason, so its a matter of tastes.

esoundc · Post by **esoundc** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:48 pm

urgh, i cannot even make it run, can someone point me to a library place for how it works

my last atempts with music programs was back in 2002 with reason, so i'm really in dunno

and something else, it is cracked version and somehow i prefer free software, advices about that? Cracks or freeware?
well i even dunno about freeware

camouflage · Post by **camouflage** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:44 am

i always used jeskola buzz as a tracker.
it is freeware and supported by a strong community of users\developers.
its one of the most extensive and free-flowing musical environments i know.
obviously,as with all trackers, you'll need sometime to change yer mind from horizontal to vertical and from decimal to hex

esoundc · Post by **esoundc** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:20 am

can u point me where to Dl, i think freeware will be beter really, and also i know that buzz is really nice one, i think mr. Geroyche was using it, and he is alway doing nice music

camouflage · Post by **camouflage** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:20 pm

yes geroyche uses it (and helped me understanding some tips on it back in my soulseek 24/7 days)
the standard website for d\l is www.buzzmachines.com
but you can google it and try to find some other sites that have alternative install packs (better) because insalling buzz can be a bit of a trouble the first times.anyway theres a lot of literature about it on the web.

check also the buzzchurch forum for more tips and buzz-related community.

esoundc · Post by **esoundc** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:45 pm

thanks, will try to try it

, i'm really bad in PC stuff

synthe.labo · Post by **synthe.labo** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:38 am

i.m.o. the real good point on Ableton is that it's a 'round' software:

you can use it as you want, you can resample in 1 sec, you can repeat operation like adding fx etc for 10 times and rendering and reimport in 2 sec

it really free your imagination!

i use it for 90% of ALL my stuff, studio and live;
i really found a software that permits me to do what i have in my mind in some seconds and not minutes neither hours (obviously a big work after the first ideas is needed)

it lacks a good good midi, i mean good midi writing structure, not talking about the awesome midi fxs, scales, chords etc;
you can achieve this reworking audio as you are working on midi, and this can be also more fun and interesting

i hope in the next version for a big midi improvement